Forums Grab Bag, once more
Thread: Is homosexuality family-friendly?
i know i spend my days fretting over whether or not gays will eat the babies i’m never going to have anyway. or that anybody who posts on TVTropes is going to have. let’s take a look at some people who should be sent back in time to 1753!
more after the break because this is longer than i thought!
huh.
apparently if you type in ‘tvtropes.com’ google sends you to a domain squatter offering courses on ‘creative writing’.
i have never encountered worse advice in my life.
The Tvtropes Drinking game!
Here’s how you play!
Step One:Hit the random button
Step Two:Drink yourself to death because you’re reading Tvtropes.
-Steelarm20 of SA
this is a reasonable course of action. anyone want some goldschlager?
Trope: Noble Bigot
hahaha. i fucking love this one. it’s the equivalent of ‘I’M NOT RACIST BUT’ ‘I DON’T HATE GAYS BUT’ bullshit.
because TVTropes finally took a fucking hint and seems to have nuked the Troper Tales pages, i’ve had to Google Cache them. sadly, this only brings us to the ‘we’re revamping Troper Tales’ page - so i go one further and click on ‘history’, which takes us to old entries. it does mean i’m missing a few, but we can make do! here we go~
As for slander against the villain trope, my ‘racism’ is merely preference of certain genetic factors in the pursuit of speciation, the very cornerstone of the trope’s motivations. As for sexuality, I’m largely asexual with a few exceptions, seeing the act as a biological imperative rather than a vice, so sexuality means next to nothing to me bar social phenomena and the fulfilment of hormonal stimuli. I don’t mind being called a monster, backward or even being told to go back to the past. I’d welcome another age, when honor was more than a mix of stale tradition and cult of personality. I realise I’m attempting to defend an ant-hill against a tidal wave, so I’ll cease my typing now.
your opinions are bad and you should feel bad. very very bad indeed. you are racist scum and i hope your fucking time machine isn’t broken so you can mosey on back to the 1800s and be ridiculed by Victorian gents for being a fat fucking waste of air.
Similarly, I tend to hold a very…”puritan” values (at least, for TV Tropes standards) about sexuality; I don’t hate nor judge people who are gay, lesbian, bisexual or anything in between, or anybody that decides to have extramarital sex (straight or gay), it’s just that I guess I’m little old-fashioned…
what the fuck does this even mean? ‘oh i swear i’m not bigotted [but secretly i am you filthy fucking homos]’?
I live in Mississippi. A lot of people steriotype other races and don’t think that they should be together, but treat their black friends like they would their white.
except that their black friends can’t marry white friends? how is that equal at all.
Throw in a religious justification, something along the lines of “God wanted us to be separate, otherwise It wouldn’t have led us to different continents”, and you’ve got my opinion. Of course, that only applies to mixed-race reproduction: I have friends and have had friends of multiple races (to the extent possible in my heavily white area), and even during my “racist period” I never sunk to hate. As of now? I consider myself a NobleBigot less along racial lines (though still there, read that first part again), and more along lines of sexual orientation. I believe that homosexuality is morally wrong. Not ”just” homosexuality, of course, it would be hypocritical to say that gay is wrong but premarital and extramarital straight is fine, it’s just that it comes up more often because it’s an easier target.
‘never sunk to hate’. yeah. uh huh. now i’m not a biblical scholar but where the fuck does it say ‘beat up on gays and blacks because fuck those losers yeah white power woo’? is my copy missing a few pages or something?!
This troper falls under this heading. I don’t see my views as any reason to wrong someone or be discurteous. Treat me with respect and I’ll respond in kind, I just prefer to stay with my own, I suppose it’s the {{Evilutionary biologist}} in me as I just see it as biologically preferableto maintain the sexual barriers that were oncce geographical also, thus over millenia leading to races becoming different species. I just see that as better biodiversity than the buzz-word version politicians love.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
since when are different ‘races’ considered new species
sadly these are basically all the entries from the cache page. but as you can see, it’s a wondrous cross-section of stupidly misguided human beings. there really does need to be a snappy term for white, straight, cis, able, unimpaired guy who nonetheless is terrified of gays and blacks. any suggestions?
bad news. good news.
the bad news is that Troper Tales seems to have disappeared completely. i’m poking around on Google cache to see if i can’t find some kicking around. serves me right for being a lazy fucker.
the good news is that their forums are still up! now to find some low-hanging fruit and kick sand in nerds’ faces.
FAKE EDIT: hahaha google you’ve served me well. i think i may have found something worthwhile here.
A kawaii prayer
My Kawaii Lord in Heaven,
Moe be thy name,
Thine cheesepuff come,
Thy will be done,
In high school as is in anime.Give us this day our daily Pocky
And us forgive our pairings
As we “Nyaa” at those who hate against us,
And lead us not into reality,
But deliver us from it.For thine is the shōjō, the shōnen and the dōjin forever.
Submitted by carouselz
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Anonymous asked: Still on vacation? It's okay, I understand, with TVTropes being the cesspool of terrible that it is.
lol yeah, sorry. i got back and kind of forgot that i made this blog for a bit. i’ll try to do a M-W-F type schedule, with Wednesdays for sure ‘cos that’s one of my days off. it doesn’t take long, it’s just tedious and their website is fuck ugly.
Trope: Can’t Hold His Liquor
in which nerds don’t understand how alcohol works, and act all self-righteous for not drinking.
I’m 15. My first taste of alcohol, that being the communion wine I finally decided to have a bare sip of last Sunday, left me with a slight headache, woozy feeling, and tendency to laugh at things that weren’t funny. It might have been the placebo effect, but, still… I’m not sure I see much heavy drinking in my future.
it’s okay because this person is actually 3 inches tall. a sip of communion wine is like drinking an entire fifth of vodka!
Never mind tasting liquor This troper can’t even stand the smell of the damned stuff. Besides I’d probably get drunk after 3 bottle because I’m really skinny.
3 bottle? jesus christ this person must be a giant!
a giant nerd
This Troper got a hangover from working with alcohol in a lab. Justified by the fact that it was 95% denatured ethanol.
i thought you idiots were all about the fucking safety masks and shit. if you wore the proper equipment you wouldn’t be in this predicament - one that also didn’t happen
Not being old enough to drink, this troper can’t hold her energy drinks. One can of Monster is seriously enough to get her so buzzed that she can’t see straight. Not an enjoyable experience for anyone, i assure you.
then don’t fucking drink energy drinks. they’re terrible for you anyways!
god i need a fucking drink after reading these whiny fuckwads’ moronic ramblings. somebody get me a fucking bloody caesar.
i come back and
The Troper Tales section has been rebooted with a new system better suited for its entries. The older tales are behind that ‘archived tales’ link. You’ll also notice that since the entries are now automatically signed, there is no need to use “this troper” in the text. You can just say ‘I.’
looooooooooooooooooooool looks like they’re finally learning
no matter you can still see the old troper tales, they’re archived!
hiatus
i’m going on vacation for a few days. i’ll see if i can dig something up while i’m gone
keep it real
Anonymous asked: So do you have a problem with TV Tropes in general or just the Troper Tales?
it’s a self-perpetuating cycle, really
i immensely dislike the idea that every single piece of media, ever, can be broken down into easily-digested catchphrases. i feel it belittles the thought and hard work put into works of art - and i do mean art, not quickly mashed together tv shows or mass-appeal movies or generic harem anime or whatever. it ignores the actual effort put into plotting, planning, writing, scripting, &c in favour of slapping giant stickers on everything and categorizing it into neat little boxes.
don’t get me wrong, bro. deconstructing stuff is fun. noticing trends and threads cross-textually is an important part of what i study. but there comes a point where i wonder, what the fuck’s the point? so you have Show X and it has some fucking trope in it. like, i dunno. Nice Hat or something. the important thing is not the trope itself, but how it’s put to use. so you have hands? great! what the fuck do you do with hands? do you jerk off? do you paint shit? do you gnaw your own fingers to the bone and spit the fleshy gristle at other people? it looks like there was a bit of an effort to contextualize the tropes, what with how many times i see the words ‘subvert’, ‘invert’ &c all over the fucking place, but in the end, it’s a worthless resource because it tells us nothing new about the media it’s examining. it’s just a laundry list of shit that appears in tvshow X.
and as for troper tales, i have no idea why anyone thought letting people post their own experiences with tropes and then not moderating it was a good fucking idea. it’s not a bad idea on the surface, but with lack of moderation, and the milquetoast EVERYONE’S OPINION IS TO BE RESPECTED (even if this opinion is about fucking cartoon characters) ideology, it’s turned into a fucking clusterfuck of myopia and mutual masturbation. it’s a prime example of the echo chamber effect, where peoples’ opinions are reinforced either by positive reactions, or just plain allowing them to post without dissent.
this is why the place is a haven for people with bizarre sexual proclivities up to and including paedophilia. criticism and dissent are quashed under the guise of ‘fairness’. it’s very clear to me what’s happened. a lot of these folks are refugees from life - middle school, high school, or whatever. they have this intense fear of rejection and of being rejectors themselves, so when someone like DogLover6969 posts about how much they want to fuck Scooby, it gets washed over and ignored purely because ‘if I disagree or criticize DogLover6969, then I’ll be just as bad as Mike the Bully who pulled down my shorts and stole my lunch money!’
the only thing that gets rid of this mentality and will allow TVTropes’s forums and Troper Tales pages to be taken even somewhat seriously is hiring some mods to do their fucking jobs, kicking the creeps off the boards, and laying down some fucking rules that aren’t milquetoast ‘everyone has the right to their opinion!’ bullshit. it’ll shake up the creeps, make them jump ship, and probably force a lot of its members to grow the fuck up.
i mean, i saw a thread that had gotten locked in two posts because a guy had some suggestions on how to improve the wiki, by making the names clearer and such. if your goddamned wiki is so fucking fragile that a lukewarm post like ‘maybe we shouldn’t give pages names that require the viewer to read them to understand’ requires instant nuking and banning, then maybe you shouldn’t have a fucking wiki.
also their website is really fucking ugly
hth
Thread: My Troper Tales Entry Is Being Deleted
oh no! i weep for yo -
JESUS CHRIST
oh dear lord. i…don’t even know where to start with this. let’s just…okay.
well. the thread is some idiot bitching because his edit got deleted from a Troper Tales page entitled Paedo Hunt. oh boy. the edit was this:
The new rules on The Escapist are 100% this, banning any discussion. Why? They find it “creepy”. Note, they even admit that there’s a difference between a pedophile and a child molester, but they don’t care. So basically, it’s open season if you are someone of a minority they don’t like.
i just. i’m speechless, Gentle Readers. this is just an amazing cluster of twisted logic.
he bitches and whines for the rest of the 2-page thread about how he’s being discriminated against.
the best part? this is what most people attack him for:
As Inuh said, we didn’t want Troper Tales related to sexual material, and we decided to cut that stuff. It generates too much of a negative opinion of this wiki for us to keep around. The Google Incident, among other things, ensured that we were and still are veeeeeeery cautious about any kind of sexual content.
not because, oh, say, he somehow managed to get banned from The Escapist for fucking talking about lolicon or something, but because he was posting it on Troper Tales and not the Fetishes Wiki (oh god oh god why does that exist).
if you’re super curious, here’s the thread.
dear jesus. and me completely out of rum, too.
Anonymous asked: We fap to loli because flat chest is a fucking privilege and cake is delicious. Get over it buddy, its not going away and neither is my sweaty loli induced vagina arousal.
I'm looking at it right now on gelbooru, I'm so juicy my ass is sticking to the chair ;)
i am so glad you are aroused by images of sexualized children. i hope you sleep soundly knowing that any action on this impulse will be literal rape, and may your ass forever be shitwelded to your chair.
also please get hit by a cement truck, tia
Thread: Kodomo no Jikan General Thread
for those of you blessedly unaware, kodomo no jikan is a fucking disgusting anime/manga series about 8 year old girls who want to fuck their teacher. they may even be younger but i refuse to fucking research this shit because a) i don’t care and b) no fucking way. closeted paedophiles (and uncloseted ones) are, of course, avid fans of it. let’s have a look!
[regarding Lolita, the novel] Of course you didn’t like the protagonist. You’re not supposed to like the protagonist. He’s a pedophilic douchebag.
oh, dear, mister pot, have you met mister kettle?
Well, Kodomo no Jikan seems to be a Deconstruction of the Nymphette concept: those girls are not Devil in Plain Sight Horny Devils to be fetishized. They are real girls, with real needs, real desires (both don’t necessarily overlap) and real problems, and an adult’s job is to help them go through tumultuous puberty wit as little trauma as possible. And never ever give in to the temptation to take advantage of the situation or it will destroy both persons involved if not more.
things to do today:
- groceries
- walk dog
- not fuck prepubescent students
Kn J would have more success if people were more open-minded I guess. Or if they didn’t Complain About Shows they don’t watch so often. Have any underaged character ever had sex? As far as I read, nope. Only two adults…in a flashback. So it’s not…you know, the stuff that sends people into a blind rage.
Besides, Kn J’s main draw was ecchi comedy anyways, if people wanted to fap, they’d look at hentai, not an ecchi manga. And if neither comedy nor fanservice attracts you, it has one hell of a story…so it’s a three pronged manga I guess. Or four pronged if you count the people who are in it for the controversy.
‘see it’s okay because they don’t have sex’
no. no it is not. not even close, buster.
if this moron thinks that nobody faps to ecchi then he’s even more fucking delusional than i thought.
‘it’s okay i only read it for the storyline!’
OH OKAY THEN
(also: ecchi jokes are never, ever funny. they’re the fanservice equivalent to a fucking garfield comic. oh no i tripped and my vulva fell in your mouth~ uguu~)
Don’t take me wrong, I like the story a lot…but if all it had was story, then I might not have liked as much.
same guy as above.
hey you pretty much just admitted that you like looking at pictures of underaged cartoon girls in panties. you fucking scumbag. what was all that jazz about how ‘it’s ironic’ and ‘it’s making fun of paedophiles’
Pirka dropped the anime because its characters look weird in profile.
That’s completely irrelevant, but I still find it hilarious.
oh i’m sure they did. sure they did, captain. and i’m fucking the queen of england.
I tend to consider edginess for edginess’ sake pretentious. Look, the “THIS MANGA IS ACTUALLY DEEP” vibe is putting me off.
Whoop dee fucking doo. I hate censorship issues for this reason—BOTH sides tend to act like idiots.
except one side is a bunch of fucking paedos, and the other is a bunch of people who think it’s gross.
“Here’s a question. How would the series change if Rin was a teenager rather than a pre-pubescent girl?”
It would greatly reduce the drama in the story of course. While it’s illegal already for a teacher to get intimate with the students, the fact that Rin is underaged is DOUBLY illegal….
Also, Rin have some pretty outragious adult knowledge about sex…many of the jokes that utilizes the fact that children that young shouldn’t know these stuff would become a lot LESS funny if she were a teenager who usually understand these concepts (unlike a grade schooler).
That…and it’d be less controversial…and I wouldn’t have picked it up.
good god almighty. ‘heh, yeah, i read it for the controversy, yeah…that’s the ticket!’
having it be paedophilic increases the drama, guys!
I did the math. If it keeps up it’s current pace (.65 posts per minute), it’ll overtake the Bleach thread in just over three and a half days.
literally nobody gives a fuck.
I’m wondering why they’re not raising outrage about actual child porn that I’m sure is out there somewhere.
Or about, you know, children STARVING to death or being killed in war zones.
well, tvtroper, perhaps it’s much easier to run across kodomo no jikan than it is to run across actual child porn. of course, you wouldn’t know anything about that, wouldn’t you?
Because the woman in question is a Moe Defrosting Ice Queen, Tsundere Meganekko prone to Luminescent Blush
oh for christ’s sake, please shut the fuck up and lose both hands in a blender and never post again.
god i can’t even fucking read this anymore. it’s a bunch of fucking disgusting manchildren gushing over prepubescent softcore under the paper-thin guise of ‘discussing the ‘plot”. i can deal with subtext delivered through fanservice - but when you try to combine depth with eroticism you end up with a bunch of horny morons completely missing the fucking point and masturbating furiously. see Suckerpunch for details.
i hate tvtropes. i hate it all. may the earth it is grown on be seeded with salt.
this is unbelievably creepy.
it’s not like actual people have breasts or anythings, right
